67 thoughts on “Ok Forever 21 is Creeping Me Out”

  1. Not that you have In-n-Out in New York, but they put it on the bottom of all their drink cups too. Creepy.

  2. Forever 21 is a Korean owned company and many are Christians… so if you don’t like Bible quotes with your low low prices, you can always shop somewhere else.

  3. yes, its owned by one korean man.
    he was caught operating sweatshops with illegal chinese immigrants in Los Angeles. he later settled out of court.
    buy there at your own risk!!

  4. Who cares what’s on the bottom of the bags…it’s what in the bag that counts, and more importantly- that whatever is in the bag probably cost a grand total of $15.59!

    P.S. in case no one has bothered to look up John 3:16 here goes…

    “For God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, that those who believe in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting.”

  5. “For God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, that those who believe in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting.”

    I think it is wonderful that christians are finally saying what they believe in. I am very glad to see this especially after the pledge of allegience was taken out of schools because the word God was in it. And they took prayer out of schools. Not to mention now there is talk about taking “In God We Trust” off of our money. I disagree with all of that. There are more Christians in this country than Aetheists. It’s time for us to stand up for what we believe in. Jesus died for our sins…..We are saved from Hell because of him. Thank you very much. Don’t be so quick to freak out because someone praises the Lord. Those who believe should.

  6. Exscuse me, Jessica, but it just so happens that there is more than one faith in the United States. Sure, Forever 21 is a privately owned company, and they have the right to do what they want, but unfortunately for the Pledge of Allegiance and public schools, the Constitution says “freedom of religion”. That means that although the U.S.’s majority, Christians cannot impose their views on the millions of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and other religions that practice here.
    Oh, and incase you think I’m some flag-burning atheist, I’m not. I’m Catholic. Yeah, Catholic.

  7. Excuse me, Leah, but it just so happens that forever 21 Christians and many others are not imposing their views on the world, they’re just letting them know.

  8. I called Forever 21 and asked about why they had it on their bag. I noticed it today too, so I called and found out. The woman on the hotline told me that the reason it’s there is because it’s an “expression of the owner’s faith in his religion.”

    I think it’s pretty darn cool.

  9. Funny how people get so offended when “Christians” impse on them while ignorance is forced on Christians day in and day out. From the desire to allow gay marriages and expecting Christians to “tolerate”. As a Catholic Jennifer, I’m very unnerved by the fact that you defend other faiths. Granted to each his/her own, but that my friend is also at your own risk. Only two places to end up! “I’d rather live and pretend there is a heaven than find out there’s not then live assuming there’s no hell, die, and find out that there is!” Jesus is the truth and the life and no ones goes to the Father but through him. Great, your Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, whatever, not great for your salvation. I find most people who criticize christianity have never “studied” the bible. Just as I, as a christian choose not to watch things that promote sin, you have the choice to not shop at this “horrible place” that reminds you of why you are hear and who you owe your grace to. Be blessed all!!! Jesus Loves YOu ;0)

  10. He absolutly is!! God is love and God is just but he will show you his wrath. God is forgiving—but only to those who repent of their sins. I am by no means a Bible thumping, knowck you over the head w/scripture, 7 day a week church attendee but I knwo a thing or two. More is expected of those to whom more is given.

    “The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and truth; who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin–yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished.” (Exodus 34:6-7)

  11. 5. melanie: he was caught operating sweatshops with illegal chinese immigrants in Los Angeles. he later settled out of court.
    buy there at your own risk!!

    GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT MELANIE!
    THERE WAS NO CHINESE IMMGRANTS INVOLVED. IT WAS NOT SETTLED OUT OF COURT. IT WAS RULED THAT FOREVER 21 WAS NOT AT ANY FAULT FOR OPERATING SWEATSHOPS. IT WAS SOME OF THEIR VENDORS WHO LATER FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY. I PERSONALLY WORKED ON THIS CASE.

  12. i am jesus and you’re all going to h-e-double hockey sticks anyway regardless of how cute your outfit is.

    God is Love,
    hey sus

  13. why is that creepy? when people get tattoos or bumper stickers, they say all kinda of things, John 3:16 is uplifting and a very famous quote. l. i don’t get how people Freak out out about christain stuff, but if it said something different they wouldn’t give a shit, or it wouldn’t be creepy…. I think the important issue is that your shopping at a store that runs tons of sweat shops. anytime you can by a shirt for $5 and it’s not goodwill, should be a red flag for Sweatshops! the bible verse isn’t the problem, it’s you! Stop shopping there!

  14. LOL
    I didn’t know the bags said that

    I grew up Christian, going to church twice a week for quite some time, I know the religion and have since chosen a different path- While I have no problem with freedom of speech and the expression of ideas and personal passions, when the particular statement condemns all those not worshipping and following a certain entity to a life of eternal damnation…you bet it’s a little creepy. That message is only uplifting to those that feel safely sheltered under it, everybody else goes to hell.
    Sorry~ not the God I would like to wear on my body~!

  15. I think that the bible verse John 3:16 is great to put on the bags. It just reminds people that no matter who you are or where you come from, JESUS loves you no matter what. He died for everyone and that is something wonderful that should always be remembered no matter what religion you are. And for the person who wrote that the bag creeps them out, apparently it doesn”t creep you out when you spend the money that states, In GOD we trust. This country was founded by Christians so it is everybody else that is imposing their views on us.

  16. When you believe in Christ, it is everything – not just a part time thing. The owner’s declaration is his God given right to share his message with anyone he wants to.

  17. Quite frankly I could give a damn what is on the bottom of the bag. My family is Buddhist and I’m Agnostic, while my boyfriend is Christian. I’m Agnostic because I’m sick of people telling me what’s right or wrong, I go by my own morals. Not because a fucking book tells me what not to do or what I am able to do. Death is death. Live in your own little facade. If thinking there is a heaven or hell makes you feel a little more secure, by all means. But don’t go spouting your religious views and negativity towards me or anyone else. Believe in what you want. But don’t be a close-minded douche. You’re a liar if you’re tell me you’re not close-minded and doesn’t the bible say something about lying?

  18. did you know that forever 21 is in reference to Revelations 21 that speaks about the New Jerusalem. I could be wrong. Has anyone else heard/read this? i find it really sad that people would get so bent out of shape over something at the bottom og a bag. so many people are afraid to praise GODs name anywhere outside their church. why? i think it;s fear. get over it people. why are you so fast to defend buddhism and other religions that do not offer your salvation? i pray for this messed up world and everyone living in it. i hope you guys find something better to do than to put people down for defending the truth. oh and i also like how people use the bible to their advantage when it is faveorable to them.

  19. i love forever 21 and will continue to shop there; i’ll just try not to look at the bottom of my bag. goddamn christians get so defensive! probably because they know deep down what hypocritical lives they lead. you really think jesus would be down with all the hating you christians do? he’d hate YOU!

  20. the funny thing is that there’s sooooo many things that we buy into or are indirectly apart of, and you never know who the originator is or what they believe in. For all you know, the owners of Target could be undercover satanists. (not saying that they are) but still you’re buying their products. So a bible quote on a bag really isnt that big of a deal. If you don’t believe in Jesus, then it doesn’t matter what the bag says. If you do, then great 🙂 Either way, you still get what you paid for.

  21. I noticed that too and i was really freaked out at first. When i got home i googled the passage and it’s really pretty harmless. This company is interdependently owned and if they want to express their faith then they can. If you have a problem with that, then simply don’t shop there.

    However, people like Jessica & Rosie & Susie (OMG!) make my want to rip my air out. You’re ignorant beyond belief and symbolize everything disgusting about America. You’re close minded and intolerant. Sickening, really.

  22. Heidi darling

    jews are still barking about the 6 million of them that died

    yet christians get offensive…yup u make sense

    if they called the store john 3:16 would you shop there, doubt it

    so for small minded people they have to tweak it

    i dont get it why people are freaking out about John 3:16

    are we going to freak out when we grab a coke can and it has a kosher symbol on…be like “oh i dont want jewish soda” get real

    big deal

    its not sewn on ur clothes

  23. belle doll, sweetie.

    the jews are BARKING about the 6 million of them that died? im not saying that it wasn’t over 50 years ago, but try losing three quarters of your family because some ass killed them all and then you tell me about barking. its not like they’re complaining about something inconsequential. i agree with the point that the 3:16 thing is not a big deal, just dont look at the bottom of the bag. but watch what you compare things to, a quote in a clothing bag is not the holocaust.

  24. Excuse me if I sound like a Bible thumper (which I mosdef am not), but those of you who say it’s “unnerving” to see a Bible verse reference on a shopping bag are absolutely RETARDED. I mean, it’s not demonic, not pressing religion on you, not forcing you to do anything you don’t want to. If anything, it is very subtly proclaiming the faith of its owners. Hardly offensive, I must say. I mean, what would YOU do to let people know you were a Christian if you were the owner and producer of a huge mainstream chain store. What a way to spread the faith! Shopping bags. Great idea.

  25. Lets be real here, it says in god we trust on american money and you guys are having a problem with a proverb on the bottom of a bag you get @ forever 21? There are more pressing issues whatever your beliefs are but if you are going to have a forum on it please make it about the disregard of our government to separate church and state not about a privately owned business’ right to free speech. Chick fill a isn’t open on sundays because of the owners beliefs and i don’t see anyone wierded out about that. Yes i am christian and really it has nothing to do with that. Some of you sound really dumb complaining about a store you can easily choose not to shop in while carrying a pocket full of old uncle sams religious beliefs without the possibility of choosing not to use it. Our whole money system is based on God and you guys are typing away about a cheap store that makes poorly manufactured clothes that will rip less than a month after you buy it. Pick your battles people and don’t let it be over something so stupid.

    P.S. I shop @ forever 21 all the time so i can be honest about how crappy the workmanship is and anyone else who shops there knows. But hey you get what you pay for and when you first get it, its flyyyyyyyyyyy ;o)

  26. I love the fact that they put the scripture verse John 3:16 on the bottom of all their bags and cups!! How cool is that. If it offends you, simply don’t shop there!! How is it okay in America for muslims to stop where they are and bow down and pray a certain way, but what this country was founded on which is the Bible (check your histroy) you people are complaining about? Dosen’t make any sense. God please continue to bless America and forgive the ignorant for they know not what they do! Continue Forever21 God is obviously blessing you and people are jealous!!

  27. Hey Zaya you said “when the particular statement condemns all those not worshipping and following a certain entity to a life of eternal damnation…you bet it’s a little creepy. That message is only uplifting to those that feel safely sheltered under it, everybody else goes to hell” How does John 3:16 read that way? It says whosever believes-that is giving you the choice to make, so in reality you are making your own eternal destination. Sounds like to me that your paretns raised you correctly and you want nothing to do with it! Which is your choice!!

  28. Whats up with people saying that the Christians are getting so defensive!! Who started all of this “creepy” about John 3:16!! they are the ones getting defensive, because it scares them. Its simple-you have a choice, it is a fact of life that death comes to all and yes we will all stand before Him one day, muslim, athiest, christian, non believeing. God is love, He sent his only Son to die for us…but He is also a just God and will set the record straight one day. He gives us the choice to accept Him or reject Him. Its very simple. God Bless Forever21.

  29. I always noticed the John 3:16 at the bottom of the shopping bags at forever 21 but never thought much of it. I started working there a couple months ago and today when we got a new shipment of clothes i noticed two new t shirts that referenced the bible. One of them said, “The Lord is my navigator” and the other said, “Get Connected” with a huge cross on it. The back of the “lord is my navigator” shirt was the John 3:16 verse. When i saw this i was deeply angered. If Forever 21 wants to incorporate religion into their clothes then they should include all major religions because not all of their customers are Christian. The John 3:16 verse has a negative connotation because ultimately in saying, those that believe in him will not perish, it is insinuating that those who don’t believe in him will perish. It is sending an ignorant message to their teenage consumers by not accepting diversity by not including other religions. Along with being a “good christian” like their clothes advocates you have to consider what else goes along with that. Who are considered the good christians in the U.S? It’s the people rallying outside of abortion clinics telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. It’s the people who are against same sex marriages. Really, it just isn’t clothes, it is a lot more than that. It is the message they are sending to its gullible, ignorant, young consumers that goes beyond just religion. And if the owner of Forever 21 is really that holy of a person then why did the store get a, “Got Beer?” t shirt just a few weeks ago, knowing full well that their clothes targets young teenage girls. What kind of mixed messages are they sending out now?

  30. Sales Associate – get a different job if you don’t like it there! You just contradicted your statement, having a “got beer” would mean that they aren’t just all about John 3:16.

  31. There is nothing bad about Christianity. there is also nothing bad about reacting on an unprecedented religious reference made by a fashionable store which also promotes eternal youth to ladies. although those of you who are really,truly,madly FREAKING OUT about an ordinary comment are pretty weird.

    susie asked: “why are you so fast to defend buddhism and other religions that do not offer your salvation?”
    well im a Catholic. but i love nature and i think mother earth and animals are underrated in Christianity and they are more deserving of worship than any man-made church. There’s the answer right there in her question. the world around me is coming down in shambles and if i have good morals and treat my neighbors right do i have to be so pre-occupied with salvation? just because i would rather plant trees and make all dogs happy than ensuring my salvation by telling everyone they are going to hell doesn’t make me damned person. If i was born in the middle of the jungle and had no idea about the Bible and the ten commandments i think i’d live a much more peaceful life and be a better person instead of being in a civilized, preaching world where on-line wars like this exist.

    and, yeah, about the 6million Jews – that was a pretty crass comparison.

  32. 2 Corinthians 12:10

    “That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.”

  33. Wow, a lot of nutty religious people have posted here….and they always end up sounding creepy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. I found this site because I was trying to look up some nasty gossip I heard about Forever 21. I was told not to shop there because they helped support a bombing of an abortion clinic. I can’t find anything about this online and knew it sounded pretty far fetched but am wondering how this rumor got started?

    Also wondering more about the sweatshop(s) I find it very frustrating that people are so concerned on the quantity of their clothing that they have no concern shopping at these places and supporting it. So typical for this country.

    -American Apparel Shopper.

  35. Why is everyone getting so defensive? It’s a free country, we have freedom of speech and the freedom to buy what we want where we want, just as the companies have the right to sell it. I grew up Catholic, I married an Atheist and my mother is now a devout Baptist…so I know about conflict. Everyone keeps talking about “taking a stand”. Well, we live in a Capitalist society where we are given the right to conduct business and make a profit. So what if their vendors are accused of using sweatshops? It’s creating jobs and if the people that work there have a choice between a sweatshop or being unemployed, what do you think they’d pick. None of you would be complaining if it was YOUR profit. It’s not our job to save the world (do you want it to come out of YOUR paycheck??) So, case in point, we live in a FREE country. We have the RIGHT to have a business, outsource production, make a profit, freedom to say what we want on our marketing and the freedom to get cute clothes for a good price. Ask yourself, are you REALLY going to pay double for an outfit at another retailer that is most likely doing the same thing and it just hasn’t been publicized to make a “stand”? Yeah, I thought not.

  36. 2 Corinthians 12:10

    “That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.”

    That’s ummm… a really bad translation:

    The Weymouth bible does a much better job with this passage: it makes us realize that you’re not planning on imposing these hardships on the world.

    WEY: 2 Corinthians 12:10

    “In fact I take pleasure in infirmities, in the bearing of insults, in distress, in persecutions, in grievous difficulties–for Christ’s sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.”

    Then again, the religious right would prefer your version.

  37. lol i dont think girls looking for cheap skimpy polyester tops to wear to the club really give a damn about whats on that bag. they get thrown in the garbage anyways…

  38. I’m not any more offended by the John 3:16 references at the bottom of the grocery bags than the Buddha statues staring in my face while I get my nails painted. How stupid would it be for me to boycott the nail place? Well, all their customers aren’t Eastern religions, are they doing something wrong? NO!!! Not at all. Why is it ok for one religion and not another? How is it any different then employees wearing various religious symbols around their neck?

    I think those who have taken an issue with this and not other religions’ symbols are the ones being hypocritical.

    Sorry guys. We have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Just ignore what you don’t like. That’s what I do.

    Some people must really be cranky and lonely to take offense to this. Way too much time on their hands.

  39. You know, for all of the love that God enstills in us for people, some sure don’t shell it out.

    My mind and my heart and my soul are always with love, no matter who my friends choose to love, the men they choose to worship, the decisions they make, or the lives they choose to lead.

    To these christian girls that continue to preach God’s name, but to do so preaching condemnation and hatred, you have surely the reason why Christianity is looked so down upon. God said this: “And these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” Oh yes, and he also said, “Love your neighbor as theyself.” To simply state that one who does not believe in God will go to Hell without explaining the love of Christ first is ignorant, naive and irresponsible. If you’re going to preach, learn to love the people whom are not like you first. Without love you are nothing.

    I know that had nothing to do with the 3:16 on the bottom of the bags, but to be a young Christian woman, and to read these things is disheartening.

    Paul had this to say:
    “Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
    6Who, being in very nature[a] God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    7but made himself nothing,
    taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.”

    I don’t think that putting John 3:16 on the bottom of a bag is harmful to society. I also don’t think that getting offended by someone who disagrees with it is going to help society either.

    When is it going to stop? Acceptance. Tolerance. Jesus Christ shared it all. And by the way, just because you are of a different religion, doesn’t automatically make you a candidate for Hell. To those who believe it does, how do you feel about a five year child who was born into a Muslin family, lived in Iraq, was killed? Did he go to Hell just because of his surroundings…how he was brought up?
    And what about the Jewish Religion. God named them His chosen people, and they don’t believe that Christ was the Messiah (unless you are talking to Messianic Jews or American Jews for Jewish). Does that not make them Heaven-Worthy?

    Know your facts and think before you speak.

  40. You know, for all of the love that God enstills in us for people, some sure don’t shell it out.

    My mind and my heart and my soul are always with love, no matter who my friends choose to love, the men they choose to worship, the decisions they make, or the lives they choose to lead.

    To these christian girls that continue to preach God’s name, but to do so preaching condemnation and hatred, you have surely the reason why Christianity is looked so down upon. God said this: “And these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” Oh yes, and he also said, “Love your neighbor as theyself.” To simply state that one who does not believe in God will go to Hell without explaining the love of Christ first is ignorant, naive and irresponsible. If you’re going to preach, learn to love the people whom are not like you first. Without love you are nothing.

    I know that had nothing to do with the 3:16 on the bottom of the bags, but to be a young Christian woman, and to read these things is disheartening.

    Paul had this to say:
    “Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
    6Who, being in very nature[a] God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    7but made himself nothing,
    taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.”

    I don’t think that putting John 3:16 on the bottom of a bag is harmful to society. I also don’t think that getting offended by someone who disagrees with it is going to help society either.

    When is it going to stop? Acceptance. Tolerance. Jesus Christ shared it all. And by the way, just because you are of a different religion, doesn’t automatically make you a candidate for Hell. To those who believe it does, how do you feel about a five year child who was born into a Muslim family, lived in Iraq and was killed? Did he go to Hell just because of his surroundings…how he was brought up?
    And what about the Jewish Religion. God named them His chosen people, and they don’t believe that Christ was the Messiah (unless you are talking to Messianic Jews or American Jews for Jewish). Does that not make them Heaven-Worthy?

    Know your facts and think before you speak.

  41. Honestly….who cares? It is a little bible verse, you don’t have to shop at the store if you don’t want to. If there was a verse from the Quran, I would not be offended. Some of my other friends are different religions also and I love them. I love and I am proud to be a Christna. I’m tired of Christians putting other religions down and I’m tired of some people that are agnostic or don’t believe in anything putting people who believe in faith down. I used to not believe in anything and honestly it was kind of a sad life. I feel to believe in SOMETHING (either it be Christianity, Muslim, or Judaism, etc makes life fuller and a little more meaningful not because it is out of a book but because it sets morals (most of the time). I just wish people would stop bitching at each other and I’m ashamed of the christians who do bash others for different views because Jesus defentily would not have done so.

  42. PS. “The John 3:16 verse has a negative connotation because ultimately in saying, those that believe in him will not perish, it is insinuating that those who don’t believe in him will perish. ”

    bullshit, honestly. I don’t even take everything in the bible that literally.

  43. i agree with whoever said who the fuck cares it’s not sewn into our clothes… i mean seriously if u don’t like it don’t fucking shop there if you don’t care … it’s what ev. and if u think jesus is super swell then i guess this is the store for you……..

    i wish everyone would get the fuck over themselves……..

  44. In response to Leah at the top….yes, freedom of religion, that means Jessica can say what the hell she wants to about her religion! Why is it that Christians are the only ones who aren’t allowed to be free about it? If it had some Chinese proverb or something everyone would be fine, but as soon as it’s the Christians its a big deal. Grow up America

  45. By putting a Bible verse on the bottom of their bags, they were able to express something they believe deeply in, in a strong way. Whether you personally are a Christian or not, you made it to this website because this simple print intrigued you. Think how many people have probably seen this verse, and then looked it up, just because it was there. This verse is not imposing any kind of religion on anyone, but simply expressing a way of life.

  46. Rosie wrote: “I’d rather live and pretend there is a heaven than find out there’s not then live assuming there’s no hell, die, and find out that there is!”

    Unfortunately, I think that’s how a lot of Christians feel and saying that you’re ok “pretending” just to be on the safe side shows a lack of faith and it suggests that you don’t really believe in any of that crap. I grew up in a devout Christian household and my entire family (parents included) has rejected Christianity because we finally admitted to ourselves that we were pretending. We’re intelligent people who believe in things that can be proven. Or, more importantly, we DON’T believe in things that can easily be DISPROVEN.

    I’m not saying that there’s no God or Being or Force that holds this world together and connects humanity. I just think people should realize that the Bible was written thousands of years ago by people who knew even less about the world than we know now.

    If there are any doubtful Christians (like I was) reading this now, just know that it’s ok to question your faith. And it’s ok to abandon it alltogether. Don’t let “christian guilt” stop you from admitting to yourself what your rational brain already knows. If you truly believe, whatever, keep believing. If not, stop living the lie.

    P.S. I happen to love Forever21. And as for them putting scripture on the bottom of their bags?… I could not care less!

  47. HELLOO … god lover hear . if you dont like it just dont shop there abymore. I dont no how i can say it in a nicer way. And also did you hear what John 3:16 says. Its not like it says god is gonna strike you down. But he gave up his son to die so when we eventuallly die we can be with him… how horrible (jk!!!)

    I LUV FOREVER 21 (AND GOD!!!)

  48. If forever 21 is doing that then yea for you! At least one place will stand up for what is right! There need to be more places like that in the world! Praise God for forever 21! And for all the other people who don’t like this on the bags then this just proves how messed upyour life really is!

  49. Just like seperation of church and state, I think that religion shouldn’t be incorporated into places where people of all religions shop. They cause controversy such as this.

  50. I don’t get why people make such a big deal over this. It’s a private company that can do whatever they want to their merchandise. Just get over yourselves. This world isn’t all about you.

  51. I am amazed at the vapidity of some of the posts here and thrilled by the thoughtfulness of others.

    So, I’ll add my stupidity here.

    Forever21 is privately held, but operates within our capitalist system. I don’t know what the opinions of their founders, owners, and management team is vis a vis religion, but, I’d hazard a guess that it’s Christian, based on the John 3:16 label and some of the Christian clothing they supposedly sell (based on another post here).

    They have made a business decision to promote their religion in a fairly unobtrusive manner on their bags. So what? Atheists, Buddhists, Muslims, Satanists, Wiccans etc, are free to shop elsewhere if they find this offensive. But, make no mistake, in addition to a small amount of proselityzing, this is a business decision. Inasmuch as it influences the Christian shopper (I freely admit that now that I see this, I am more likely to shop there), it’s good business for them. If it alienates a few non-Christians (or even a few Christians), they have decided it’s worth the risk.

    In our economic system, there can be no better judge of the wisdom of this decision than the marketplace. You vote with your dollars. I can see no better way to make these decisions.

    They have no inherent obligation to promote any religion whatsoever, and, in promoting one, in our society and under our laws, they have no obligation to promote any other.

    Would it make good business sense to provide some inspiring versus from other religious texts? Maybe. Maybe not?

    For some reason, I don’t see the massive Muslim community in this country flocking to Forever21 for their stylish Burkhas.

    If you all want to see what life is like in a theocracy, where these kinds of decisions are made by the government, maybe you would have enjoyed life in the Taliban controlled Afghanistan, or in Saudi Arabia, Iran, or some of our enlightened friends in The Sudan. Maybe you’d like to live in a country where naming a stuffed animal Muhammad can lead to your death for blasphemy.

    Be thankful you live in the most tolerant, most free, and most prosperous nation in the world. If you choose to avoid Forever21, so be it.

  52. Im leaving this reply in hope that some of you non-believers will just listen a sec. Not all Christians beat people over the head with a bible, I have met some. Yes, there are very few Christians who will just listen to someone and listen why they believe the way they do and ask them questions before telling them how wrong they are. But there are some. I am one of them. I am totally devoted to Jesus, I have been a Christian all my life, but I am not going to try to convert someone on the spot. Printing John 3:16 on the bottom of a bag is the owners choice, an outward symbol of his belief in the bible. If that offends you, DONT SHOP THERE!
    Yes, I said it. It’s that simple. I pray that those of you who are offended will take advantage of the oppurtunity to just hear about Christ one day,as Im sure you will.

  53. There are over 4200 religions in this world–I’ve never understood the arrogance of believing yours is the right one. Is your god an arrogant god? Or if there is a god do you think that maybe that power would be tolerant of the those who believe one of the 4199 other religions? I understand tolerance, and though I do no support christianity, I understand that some people need it and yes, I shamefully admit I still shop at forever21. But please, don’t think that we are a christian nation. “Under God” and “In God we trust” weren’t added to this country until the 50s. We are a diverse country. It is this arrogance that makes the rest of the world hate us.

  54. Believing in your religion is in no way arrogance. If you felt so strong about something, you would want to share it with other people too. I totally disagree with you, Ali.

  55. so i’ve been working at forever 21 in syracuse, ny for long way before the new manager started working or should i say not been working :0 the store associates even the new ones that have been hired have never seen any manager sit on her ass as much as the new manager and we all have to say that she is the worse ever. i miss Kim the old manager she was awesome and everyone respected her so much she moved on to better things. The new one is a lunatic and runs the store like a carnival. dont feel bad shes on med she admits that shes is crazy. she even admited to all of us at the store that shes paid a friend to key her boyfriends car last year…lunatic!!! how is it possible that a store manager doesnt know how to make a simple store schedule

  56. I think that it’s great that Forever 21 promotes the owner’s faith and that the owner stands for something. I also think that part of the objective in putting John 3:16 on the bottom of their bags is being fulfilled on this site…dialog and further thought about the message contained in John 3:16.

    I also find it interesting that Christian verses and references to Jesus cause such discomfort and even anger in social settings but those same refs regarding other major religions are met with tolerance. That has intrigued me for many years…why do you think that is??

  57. As a devout Atheist, I do get slightly irritated with such propaganda as this, especially living in the “Bible Belt” of the south. However, I am tolerant of others’ beliefs and support what they choose to print on their own merchandise and packaging. I think it is rather sad, though, that there are many posts on this blog proclaiming the superiority of the Christian faith and how someone is “finally standing up for what is right”. I see nothing wrong with taking pride in one’s beliefs, but to say that a practicer of another religion or a non-believer is leading a “messed-up life” and that they will ultimately be judged and condemned by your all-loving god? Where is the love in that? Yet I am the sinner because I choose to believe what can actually be proven. The Old and New Testament are contradictory to science, have myths and dates used thousands of years prior to the writing that have been borrowed from previous polytheistic beliefs, and one of the names given as a witness to confirm the authenticity has long been proven as false.

  58. OMG, you people are retarded!

    First things first, to all the Christians who are making out like this is an attack on Christianity whilst other religions don’t receive the same treatment, you might want to read what other people are saying – that they would prefer to not have anything religious forced upon them. Also, those who have this opinion aren’t evil, they just enjoy the benefits of secularism. Secondly, the more important issue should be the horrific junk produced by Forever21, which should discourage anyone with senses from shopping there. Thirdly, why do peopel on this thread jump to so many incorrect conclusions. Do you all struggle with reading, or is it that you are so caught up in your own “correct” beliefs that you don’t care?

    Lastly, to the person who tried to make a comparison between this and the Holocaust. I think you should really get repenting that sin because God, in whatever form, probably wont allow idiotic scum like you in his heaven.

  59. Yeah, my sister (allysa) just came in and showed me that on her bag. We were like, wtf? so we looked it up.
    It’s weird how we all noticed that. hmm… :/

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